| Author | Message | ||
     roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Keys to the Bible came out in January 2004 by Computronics Corp. of Savyon, Israel. They started with the base level of their Bible Codes 2000 and added things like: accurate statistics, a full gematria capability that is outstanding, Rashi Commentary in Hebrew and English, and lots of other new study aids and capabilities. Since it is only $10 more than Bible Codes 2000 and has a ton of extras, I recommend that new purchasers buy Keys to the Bible instead of Bible Codes 2000. Just having accurate statistics when you do Bible codes is enough reason to buy Keys to the Bible instead. | ||
| stuart Username: stuart Registered: 4-2004 |
I agree with you Roy. Its great. stu | ||
| roger |
have been looking for a review/comparison of keys to the bible... i purchased codefinder a while back but have never picked up hebrew due to living in china and learning chinese...so to my shame have not learned how to use codefinder with any promise. i was wondering if keys to the bible would be better since i do not have the time at the moment to learn hebrew, but would like to be able to do legitimate searches...but need to be able to type a phrase or words in english and then have it translated into hebrew. thanks for any input | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Roger, Keys to the Bible has 5 different Hebrew-English bilingual dictionaries: Dictionary, Lexicon (modern words and famous names), First Names, Bible Names, and Personal Dictionary (to add your own terms). However, it doesn't do phrases, since one needs an understanding of Biblical Hebrew Grammar to do sentences correctly. The following page lists the differences between CodeFinder and Keys to the Bible. http://ad2004.com/shopping/rankings.html So...Keys to the Bible may help you a little, but it is not a magic solution. CodeFinder is the superior codes program, but the more extensive dictionaries in Keys to the Bible may be helpful. I also like the full Hebrew concordance in Keys to the Bible which is helpful to see how a word is used in context in the Torah and Tanach, and the spelling used in Torah/Tanach. | ||
| Leighton |
Roy, I am 19 years old and have read both of Drosnin's books and I am very interested in bible code research, and have just bought the codefiner research software. I am haveing trouble putting in words such as European Union and George Walker Bush and was wondering if you could help me understand how to put long sentences in the search box. I am very knowledgeable about end time prophecy, and just need some guidence. I look forward to what you have to say. thanks LEB | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Leighton, I commend you for beginning your own journey into the Bible codes. When I first began in the Bible codes, I knew nothing. I knew no Hebrew, I didn't know the Hebrew letters, nothing. :-) The first step is to learn the Hebrew letters if you haven't already done that. Anyone can learn the Hebrew letters in 1 week by making up a set of flash cards using 3x5 index cards. Draw the letter on one side and write the name on the other side. Periodically go through them and you will memorize them quickly. The Guide to Hebrew Letters in the CodeFinder Tutorial will make it easy to make up the flash cards. You need to memorize the letters or else how would you know whether you misspelled a word, or could even use a bilingual dictionary well? My question to you is, how is it that you are able to write sentences in English? Were you born with this capability? Or, did you learn it? If you want to do sentences in the Bible code, then you need to learn Biblical Hebrew Grammar. You can learn that at home as self-study in 6-9 months by buying the books and doing the lessons at home. no class or teacher needed. The books I recommend in the Articles section of this website will teach you. It's kind of fun, and not at all a drag when you know you are learning for a purpose. http://ad2004.com/Biblecodes/articles/pubsforcodes.html You can do Bible codes searches as you are learning, so it is not as if you have to wait until you fully learn Biblical Hebrew Grammar. BTW, the way I and others develop sentences in the codes is NOT by typing in a long sentence and looking for it. Why? Because it is possible to write the same thing many different ways. We look for terms and find the matrix, and then "snoop" the terms in the matrix, which is looking at the letters before and after the term at ELS to see what the longer string says. This is a more efficient way of doing it. Also, learning Biblical Hebrew Grammar is far easier than when you learned English. The reason is that you already know what a sentence is; what verbs and nouns and adjectives are. You already know what punctuation means. You already know what a sentence with a subject, verb and object are (Hebrew sentence word order is different than English). My point is that you come to the table knowing an awful lot already. That's why I say you can learn Biblical Hebrew Grammar in 6-9 months. After that, you'll be able to do sentences as well as anybody. | ||
| leighton |
Roy, Thank you for answering me so quickly. I have almost memorized the alphabet in two days, yet when I search for George Bush and America I still can't find them anywhere. I use -65000 and 65000 skip range. I have no idea what my problem is and was just wondering what I could be doing wrong. I also can't find words such as end of days or John Kerry. thanks again for your time and I will be looking forward to what you have to tell me. P.S. if you aren't to busy could you search for America and European union and war. Thanks again. LEB | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Leighton, Are you using the Torah or the entire Tanach? George Bush can be: GeorgeBush, GBush, GWBush, GeorgeWBush. George is gimel vav resh gimel, and Bush is bet vav shin. America can be spelled out completely: aleph mem resh yud quf hey. Or the abbreviation used in the Israeli press for USA: aleph resh hey bet. That's short for United States: artzot habrit, the covenant land: aleph resh tzadik vav tav, hey bet resh yud tav. After all, all the countries in America are America including those in North and South America. I tend to use the USA abbreviated term which applies to the USA and not any country in the Americas. End of days can be written a few ways too. As used in the scriptures "the end of days" "ketz hayamim" quf tzadik, hey yud mem yud mem. If I remember right, it is used in Daniel with the Aramaic nun ending instead of mem for hayamim (hayamin). Without the hey it is "end of days". A similar term used by Jacob in Genesis 49:1 is "the last days", acharit hayamim aleph chet resh yud tav, hey yud mem yud mem. I don't do searches for others by request or for money. :-) | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Leighton, I just looked and found GeorgeWBush at ELS 9260 in 2 Samuel to 1 Kings using Keys to the Bible. That's the matrix that has the 2000 and 2004 election. You cannot get this in CodeFinder, because there are 14 letter differences in the Tanach between CodeFinder and Keys to the Bible/BC2000. One of the 14 letter differences is right in the middle of this matrix. I should mention that I used vav vav for W in GeorgeWBush and one can also use just vav for w. The Torah is the same on all codes programs, the Koren Torah. However, CodeFinder has a Tanach that exactly matches the printed Koren Jerusalem Bible, while Keys to the Bible/BC2000 has a leading edge Tanach from the researchers at Koren reflecting the latest manuscript research. That's where the 14 letter differences in the Tanach come from. And don't ask, the Koren Tanach has international copyright and they will NOT give it to anyone else. | ||
| melody Username: melody Registered: 12-2003 |
Roy, I’m watching very carefully where I click this time.  Thanks for taking off my test post earlier. I would like to give Leighton my encouragement. It’s great you’ve almost memorized all the Hebrew Aleph-bet. Keep it up! .  Roy, can I ask you is it legitimate to use the letter ‘bet’ for ‘junior’ and for ‘the second’ as in addressing father and son relationship in a matrix term interpretation? . Also thanks for all the good software download tips you gave us. I like the Online Bible a lot. The Open office is wonderful too. Roy, may I ask you how the right-to-left text direction works in this software? I have a lot of notes to organize and when I change the text direction from right to left it just push my letters to the left. In other words, when I type. abcde. it still reads abcde. and not edcba.  Am I missing some steps? Also may I ask you which Hebrew font do you use for your work? Does yours has all the vowel sings by any chance? I have the shibolet font installed. It gives very nice font face but I couldn’t find the key for tzadi sofit and the keys for hatef-patah, hatef-segol and hatef-qames. As always, your help is very much appreciated.  | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Melody, I forgot what version of Windows you have on your computer. If you have Windows XP or ME, you need to go through and turn on the the right to left capability in Windows XP and ME. It is there but not turned on. (not in Windows 95, 98, or NT4, and I don't know about Win 2000). On my computer Windows with XP, I added Hebrew as a second keyboard and it is activated by using the "Left SHIFT-ALT" keys. I just press down on Left SHIFT-ALT and it switches to Hebrew with right to left typing. If I am using Times New Roman or Arial or any font, it types in Hebrew letters after I switch to Hebrew. This enables me to type in Hebrew in any word processor or in an e-mail in Outlook Express. Here are the procedures in Windows XP to enable Hebrew and right to left typing (procedures in Win ME is similar): 1. Open the Control Panel and select Language and Regional Options. 2. Select Add Other Languages 3. Select the Languages tab, and in the center section check the box for Install files for complex script and right to left languages. 4. Click the Details button in the top section to add the Hebrew keyboard (opens another window). 5. Select Settings tab and in the top section leave it as English (US) or whatever you had there. In the center section add the Hebrew keyboard and make it secondary (English keyboard should be in bold, primary). 6. On the bottom click the Languages button. Then check the boxes for: "show the language bar on the desktop" and "show additional Language bar icons in the Taskbar". Then click OK. Then click on the Key Settings button next to the Languages button. 7. You can leave the keys to switch between languages as the default "Left SHIFT-ALT" or change it to something else, then press OK. Click Apply and OK to finish with the Text Services window. 8. Back at the Regional and Language Options window, select the Advanced tab. 9. In the top section, leave it as English. In the center section, scroll through the list and check all the boxes for Hebrew font/text. Then in the bottom section check the box for applying the setting to all user accounts. 10. Then click Apply and OK to close the window. You're all done and can close the Control Panel. You may have to Restart for all changes to take effect. Now, after Restart, there will be a little icon in the taskbar that says EN or HE. It will initially come up EN (English) and when you hold down the left SHIFT-ALT keys together on the keyboard, it switches to HE (Hebrew) on the taskbar. When you do this, you will type in Hebrew and right to left in a word processor, Wordpad, or in Outlook Express. In your e-mail program, you have to be using HTML e-mail to use right to left Hebrew. I don't have the shibolet font. However, with any font you can display all of the font when using OpenOffice. When a text file is open in OpenOffice, select in the Menu, Insert--Special Character. It displays all the font, and you can insert the character you want when you select shibolet font there. How do you find the right key to use from the keyboard? You can do like I do which is have a text file open and go through and press all the keys one by one and see what shows up. Then press the Caps Lock key and do all the keys again. To remember, you can take a sheet of paper and write down in 4 rows what shows up when you press the key (a keyboard map on paper). For example on paper you can have the numbers row and below it the Q W E R T Y row. Under or on the side, write down the Hebrew letter or symbol when you are using the shibolet font. That way you'll know all the keys on paper and won't have to use Insert-Special Character (unless you want to). I have lots of Hebrew fonts, and also a Hebrew Word processor (DavkaWriter) which I hardly ever use any more, because with Hebrew and right to left typing turned on in Windows XP, I can now do the same thing in any word processor. For "junior" the example in the Oxford Dictionary for John Smith Junior is (in Hebrew) John Smith haben (the son). It also shows using the letter "bet" as a secondary method (US). | ||
| melody Username: melody Registered: 12-2003 |
Thanks a lot Roy!  | ||
| Blaine Burgstrom |
Hi, I just purchased Bible Code Millenium and I am wondering how to see the Bible text in English and how to search English words that are not in the dictionary provided in the program. In the "How to Search" page under "How to perform a Bible Code search" the CodeFinder page is much different from the version I just purchased and seems much easier to use. Is the version displayed on the "How To Search" page available still? Do I need to learn Hebrew to use the Millenium Edition? | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Blaine, The Bible code is in Hebrew, so the more one knows of Hebrew, the easier it is. That doesn't mean that anyone cannot use the software and bilingual Hebrew-English dictionary and do codes searches. However, until you learn some Hebrew, your terms are likely to be single word terms rather than phrases and sentences. Do the Lessons in the Tutorial and you'll know how to use all the functions. You can display the Bible text by double-clicking on a letter in the displayed matrix. It opens a windows showing the verse which contains the letter you double-clicked on. Printed dictionaries will give you expanded capabilities. | ||
| Blaine Burgstrom |
Hi Roy, Thanks for the quick response & information. I was hoping for something a little more user friendly, you know, like just being able to type my name in and see where it is in the Bible, or type in some event such as "JFK assinated" and see where that is in the Bible, and read it in English, but it sounds like the CodeFinder doesn't really work like that. The version that is showcased in the "How to Search" section at the Research Systems web site seemed pretty user friendly; both the KJVOT.COD & KJVNT.COD were offered in English. Do you know if that version is still available? And, as you pointed out the Bible is in Hebrew, so is the English version reliable? Please let me know. Thanks again for your help! | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Blaine, What you have already has it. When you start the program and click on the yellow folder button to select the search text, select either kjvot.cod (for the English KJV Old Testament), or kjvnt.cod (for the English KJV New Testament). With either of those you can do practice searches in English. I say practice because the proven Bible code is in the original Hebrew Torah and Tanach and not in an English translation. It's fun to learn how to use the program by doing searches in English. :-) I believe you also have mobydick.cod, which if selected as the search text, allows you to do searches in English in the Moby Dick novel. | ||
| Blaine Burgstrom |
Hi Roy, When I run my program from the screen where it says "Run Program" on the left side and "Getting Started" on the right side it takes me directly & only to a screen that shows the expanded Bible text in Hebrew where search results are displayed and which is accompanied by 2 columns: One with the Hebrew text, again, and the English translation right next to it. Above the expanded Bible text there are 3 drop down menus labeled File, Options & Help. In the File menu I can select Search, Go to Slide or Book. In the Book section I can select the Old Testament, the Torah & the books Genesis thru 2 Chronicles. There is no KJVOT or KJVNT or language selection available. In the Search selection it takes me to the Search screen where I can select Options, Search, Found or Slide. There is no screen under any of thoses tabs where I can select KJVOT or KJVNT, nor under the options tab. Under the Options menu I can select Text & then Translation but under Translation I can only check Yes or No, which either adds or removes the English translation from the accompaning columns showing the selected book in Hebrew or English as described above. In these two columns, which are Read Only, meaning no searches can be done with them, there is also a Book and a Chapter tab. I can select from Genisis to 2 Chronicles and a specific chapter and the is what is displayed in the aforementioned 2 columns. Again, the seem to be Read Only and no searchs or search results are displayed there. There is also an update tab there which updates the columns with the book & chapter selected. These are the only screens I find available. Nowhere do I find a yellow folder button where I can select a search text. Sorry for the long explanation but it really seems like I'm missing something here, either in my execution, which is entirely possible, or perhaps I don't have the same program or maybe somehow the entire program didn't load, which I made sure of the best I could. I don't know. I appreciate whatever help you can give. Thanks very much. | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Hello Blaine, Ohh, above you mentioned Millennium Edition, which I took to be CodeFinder: Millennium Edition. That program will allow you to search the KJV NT and OT in English besides the Hebrew Torah and Tanach. Now it sounds like you have Keys to the Bible or Bible Codes 2000 by Computronics. (you have to be more specific on programs :-). With these programs by Computronics they are made to only search the Hebrew Torah and Tanakh, that's it. So with Keys to the Bible you cannot search in English. | ||
| Blaine Burgstrom |
Hi Roy, Hmmmmm, well I checked, the edition I have says Research Systems Codefinder Millenium Edition on the case and the CD inside says: Research Systems Codefinder Bible Code Software but the CD does not specify "MIllenium Edition" however,it also says on the CD that it "Includes the following Scriptures: Hebrew: Genisis, Torah & Tanach Greek: Textus Receptus (NT) English: KJV 1611 Old & New Testaments" When I loaded the CD onto my computer I just followed the prompts and did what it said but now I'm wondering, "Did I load it wrong?" or maybe I received the wrong CD or maybe the CD is faulty, because I sure can't access anything English, or Greek for that matter. I have re-loaded it once; Is there something I may be missing? Any thoughts or directions are appreciated. Thanks again! | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Blaine, Can you display the program on your computer, and press the "print Screen" key on the keyboard, and then start a agraphics program, paste it, and save it as a GIF? Then send it as an attachment to an e-mail to codes04@ad2004.com Are you sure you don't have two programs? Go to "My Computer", then C: drive, then Program Files, then Research Systems, then CodeFinder and start that program. Let me know if you can do this. | ||
| Blaine Burgstrom |
Hi Roy, What you have asked me to do above is probably not that difficult but something I really haven't had time to try. I have contacted Kevin/Research Systems and asked to return the disk. I do want to thank you for your help though. Best Regards, Blaine | ||
| Bob Campbell Username: klutzz Registered: 4-2007 |
Does anyone have any info on how to reach this company ? I paid for a download of keys and super milon yesterday but there was some kind of problem with the download link supplied. Any help is appreciated. Thanx, Klutzz | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Bob, Computronic Corp. can be contacted at: hebrsoft@netvision.net.il They are good people and will quickly fix the problem when contacted. | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
Roy: What type of tutorial comes with Keys to the Bible or Bible Codes 2000? Is the tutorial built into the program's HELP menu or on a separate DVD/VHS? The makers of Bible Search Pro had zero tutorial and zero customer service. Want to try another program. Thanks. | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
Roy: In the March 1997 Slate.com magazine article "Cracking God's Code," by Benjamin Wittes, he says: "The search for the Torah codes is rooted in the unfathomable theological premise that the Torah--itself a set of five books of limited length--contains literally all truth. (The Torah, a k a the "Five Books of Moses," consists of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.) This is not an overstatement. The Torah, in other words, is supposed to contain--somehow and somewhere--everything from your Social Security number to the names of all the people you've ever slept with, as well as what you ate for breakfast the next morning." Since you have Keys to the Bible, would you give me a short laundry-list tutorial on how to look up my social security number using this program? I would like to see if this is really possible. Thanks. | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Harold, Keys to the Bible comes with a 152 page manual in PDF that is installed when the program is installed. It also has HELP-Contents from the menu in the program, although much more is in the PDF manual than in Contents. There is also a graphic Codes Tutorial built into the program with 18 pages (screens) selectable from the CODES menu, to help someone get started quickly in doing a codes search. E-mail me and I will send you the PDF manual to look over. Your last post is someone making grandiose statements that aren't provable. Just because someone makes grandiose statements, it doesn't mean it is true. I know of no one who regularly or at any time finds any social security numbers. If it is true, then it may be in an undiscovered codes method other than the straightforward Hebrew text. | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
Roy, thanks brotha. You're so right. Slate.com isn't the most erudite and scholarly publication. I was just going over some old notes in my file...and got to thinking that there have been significant breakthroughs in Torah Codes research since '97. Please e-mail me the PDF at ...... | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
I e-mailed you the PDF manual. | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
Thank you my brother, I go it. :-) | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
Roy: Now that I have the tutorial up, I completed the initial lesson for "Lady Di." I'm done now. So what do I need to do now in order to view the matrix results in "English?" | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Harold, Did signing in as Administrator fix your Tutorial issue? When you have the Matrix displayed, the drop down menu just above the matrix shows each term in Hebrew and English. Likewise, the Matrix Report also shows the terms in English and Hebrew. If you thought you could achieve the impossible nirvana of toggling the matrix itself to English, it won't happen--not with any Bible codes program. | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
Roy, was already signed on as Admin. Problems persist with the tutorial, but Computronic gave me a link to download the tutorial to my desktop and that works fine. Thanks for the suggestions on the drop down menu. Being able to toggle between both would be cool though... | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
Roy: Should I use my legal name (first, middle, last)that's on my birth certificate to develop the correct Bible Codes matrix on myself? I plan to add "Sarasota" and "Florida" to my search terms because my oldest son who shares our name, now lives in LA. He lived here as an adolescent and I don't want to confuse the data. Does this sound logical? Also, I am a "junior" and so is my son, but I never changed my legal name status to "senior." So technically according to my birth certificate, I'm still a junior. So should I use my legal name with "junior?" | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Harold, what is important is that you find the correct matrix for you. That may require you to look at all the possibilities in regards to your names. I wouldn't use junior. What helps determine the correct matrix is not specifically the form of your name used, but other terms that are unique to you. Yes, your son is likely to be there too and shares some of the non-name terms, but other terms wouldn't be shared. Its the totality of terms found that helps you zero in on the correct matrix. There are no helpful shortcuts, so try it all. | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
Roy: Once I have my matrix up, how do I "see" in English what the program is telling me after my search. I know you can't toggle back and forth...I know that. But how do I see my results in English? Thanks | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Harold, for Keys to the Bible, the drop down menu right above the matrix has all the terms in Hebrew and English. The Matrix Report in Keys to the Bible is also good, showing the terms in Hebrew and English. | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
Roy: I used the drop down menu and the Matrix Report--both were good. I apologize for being less than precise. What I need to know is, where are the messages in the matrix? Since I'm having problems with my name, I looked at the "messages" derived from B. Schneider's Nibiru matrix. I see in English "destiny", "panic" "appearance", "prepare", "earth", etc. near individual Hebrew letters. How is this done? I want to determine what the Hebrew letters in a Keys to the Bible matrix 'mean' in English after my search is done and the matrix is displayed. | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Bob Schneider developed his matrices with the CodeFinder program. He saved his matrix and matrix report. Then he opened the matrix in a graphics program and pasted it into a larger background graphic so that he could add those labels in English. Then he added the labels in English as shown on his matrix report and used the graphics program capability to draw connecting lines from the label boxes to a letter of the Hebrew word in the matrix that matched his label box. It was all a matter of using a graphics program after the matrix was developed, to dress up the matrices for his article presentation. You can do the same thing with a Keys to the Bible matrix and using a graphics program. I use Paint Shop PRO X, but you can use the FREE Gimp program which is a extremely capable free program that almost completely clones the expensive Adobe Photoshop program. Anyone can download the FREE Gimp program here (for Windows, Linux, or Mac OS). free Gimp graphics program Note: because Gimp is a clone of the world class Adobe Photoshop program used by graphics professionals around the world, it is extremely capable. This means it takes time to learn Gimp and there is a learning curve. | ||
| briscom Username: briscom Registered: 12-2003 |
What I mean is by looking at Bob's, how do you determine a whole English word by one or two Hebrew letters? For example, shin is "Year 5766," Resh "Earth" How do you know what the colored Hebrew letters mean in English to understand what the "message" is in your matrix? | ||
| roy Username: roy Registered: 11-2003 |
Harold, The whole term is there in the matrix and not just one letter. For all the letters in the matrix, Bob has the matrix report on the page before the matrix. For earth, it points at the letter "alef" but the whole word is there and recognizable by the shape around the letter and the color of the shape. The word is "m'urah" for earth (mem alef vav resh hey). So...the answer is use the matrix report for the fastest reference. |